kingelessar8
Abilify. Its supposed to be for treating bipolar symptoms and/or schizophrenia. I've been on the edge of falling to pieces lately, so I am going to start this new med and begin therapy. I was planning on having myself committed but because of Covid thay aren't doing that unless its an emergency (suicide basically). Anyway, anyone know much about Abilify? I'm already on Lexipro for depression and anxiety.
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EJ
I know nothing of meds, because Tom Cruise tells me that depression isn't real and all I need to do is ENDORPHINIZE WOOOOOOOO, but, seriously, best of luck.  Have you ever "committed" yourself before?
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bazou
Abilify. Its supposed to be for treating bipolar symptoms and/or schizophrenia. I've been on the edge of falling to pieces lately, so I am going to start this new med and begin therapy. I was planning on having myself committed but because of Covid thay aren't doing that unless its an emergency (suicide basically). Anyway, anyone know much about Abilify? I'm already on Lexipro for depression and anxiety.



YES. My best friend is bipolar. She has tried different combinations of medication since her diagnosis about 20 years ago, and is now on Abilify injections. She started with the pill form, and now has graduated to an injection every 5 weeks. This is the happiest she has been with her meds ever. She's been very happy with Abilify. 
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kingelessar8
EJ wrote:
I know nothing of meds, because Tom Cruise tells me that depression isn't real and all I need to do is ENDORPHINIZE WOOOOOOOO, but, seriously, best of luck.  Have you ever "committed" yourself before?


Nope. I have a friend who has done it a few times though and she gave me the run down on what to expect. I wasnt thrilled with the prospect, but I needed to do something. But medication and therapy it is I guess.
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kingelessar8
They dont let you have your phone, which is kind of terrible. 
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bazou
They dont let you have your phone, which is kind of terrible. 


Also, I'm really sorry to hear you are struggling. I'm happy to get more insight from my bff. I know she's been on Lithium, Seroquel, Lexipro, and a bunch more. Any specific questions? Big hugs your way. 
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kingelessar8
I'm kind of curious why a schizophrenia medication when that isnt something (so far as I know) that I have any issues with. I guess because it's also for bipolar symptoms? Those I do have. I am curious about side effects from this.
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kingelessar8
bazou wrote:



YES. My best friend is bipolar. She has tried different combinations of medication since her diagnosis about 20 years ago, and is now on Abilify injections. She started with the pill form, and now has graduated to an injection every 5 weeks. This is the happiest she has been with her meds ever. She's been very happy with Abilify. 


That is excellent to hear. Thanks for the concern and info.
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wirthling
A few months ago I finally went to a shrink because of the increasing frequency and severity of outbursts (cursing loudly, banging on things, occasionally breaking things) that I was experiencing and I was worried I would lose my job because of it. Also, my general anxiety levels have been getting higher and higher as time goes by. I was put on Depakote (divalproex sodium), which is typically prescribed for bipolar folks. It didn't seem to do much so over the course of the last few months my dosage got upped. I have reached a point where the outbursts are rare and muted so I guess it is working, but I also feel emotionally numb a lot of the time and have had some issues with anhedonia (I have largely lost interest in playing my guitar or video games), so now my shrink has added Cymbalta (duoxetine). I kinda feel like we're doing one of those puzzles in a video game where you have to turn a set of dials and get the needle to settle within a certain range.
"I am very poorly today and very stupid and hate everybody and everything." - Charles Darwin
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bazou
wirthling wrote:
A few months ago I finally went to a shrink because of the increasing frequency and severity of outbursts (cursing loudly, banging on things, occasionally breaking things) that I was experiencing and I was worried I would lose my job because of it. Also, my general anxiety levels have been getting higher and higher as time goes by. I was put on Depakote (divalproex sodium), which is typically prescribed for bipolar folks. It didn't seem to do much so over the course of the last few months my dosage got upped. I have reached a point where the outbursts are rare and muted so I guess it is working, but I also feel emotionally numb a lot of the time and have had some issues with anhedonia (I have largely lost interest in playing my guitar or video games), so now my shrink has added Cymbalta (duoxetine). I kinda feel like we're doing one of those puzzles in a video game where you have to turn a set of dials and get the needle to settle within a certain range.


I was prescribed Cymbalta for my fibromyalgia. I took it for a month and hated how it made me feel - or rather, not feel anything - so I got off it.
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kingelessar8
That sounds awful, sorry wirthling. I'm worried about being medicated out of interest in my creative pursuits as well. I already have issues with that when I'm depressed.
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wirthling
I'm trying to decide if being the office crazyperson is a price I have to pay to get back to enjoying my guitar. Or maybe if I am patient my shrink will get the dials worked out so I can be sane and enjoy things.

The Cymbalta might be helping with the anhedonia. Just in the last few days I have enjoyed motorcycle rides, cooking, and re-watching Community.
"I am very poorly today and very stupid and hate everybody and everything." - Charles Darwin
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kingelessar8
bazou wrote:


I was prescribed Cymbalta for my fibromyalgia. I took it for a month and hated how it made me feel - or rather, not feel anything - so I got off it.


My wife Laura takes Lyrica for fibro. It seems to work fairly well for her.
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wirthling
If I start posting diagrams about the new world order, please, someone, call in a 5150 on me.
"I am very poorly today and very stupid and hate everybody and everything." - Charles Darwin
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kingelessar8
wirthling wrote:
If I start posting diagrams about the new world order, please, someone, call in a 5150 on me.


Uh, yeah, will do.

*puts away 7023 page manifesto*
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bazou


That is excellent to hear. Thanks for the concern and info.


I've followed her progress with her disorder and know quite a bit about what's she dealt with, but I just got off the phone with her to fill in the blanks. She gave me a good understanding:

Before Abilify, she was on Lithium and Zyprexa, which are both absolutely brutal in terms of their toxicity and side effects. She is Bipolar 1, meaning that her manic episodes are more severe than her depressive episodes. Before Abilify, she would average one manic episode a year that would get severe enough (psychosis/schizo-affective) to warrant hospitalization. Abilify was introduced to her in 2013 to help with the Manic episodes. She has not been hospitalized since. She's had one manic episode since which plateau-ed and never grew to the psychosis level. She weathered the storm on her own at home. She also said the side effects have been minimal if any. 

From my understanding, it is typically not used much when the episodes are predominantly depressive. It is also used to treat severe anxiety, which might be why it was prescribed to you.

Of course, there are so many factors (diet, lifestyle, age, etc) and every person reacts differently, but overall, her experience with it has been very positive.

Also, i just realized Lexipro is the same as Cipralex, which I am currently on myself. 
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wirthling
That sounds awful, sorry wirthling. I'm worried about being medicated out of interest in my creative pursuits as well. I already have issues with that when I'm depressed.


Part of me is saying, Well it's probably for the best that I making less music, because I suck at it. If I could separate out that part and then stake it through its heart I'd probably be most of the way to OK. -ish.
"I am very poorly today and very stupid and hate everybody and everything." - Charles Darwin
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Sparkle
I don't mean this in a handsome Tom Cruise way, but how much exercise do you get? My experience has been that while mental illness can completely deplete your will to engage in physical activity, medication can sometimes make it even worse. I think that exercise is extremely important in managing mental health.
"We think it is more important to be right than it is to appeal to the humanity of people we disagree with." ~Hannah Gadsby
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wirthling
A few years back I took bumbastil but it made me see triple and so I got switched to aphlodorp, which made me piss orange, I mean the fruit not just the color, and so I was put on snapcracklepopazil and snizobrim and then I got tired of this gag.
"I am very poorly today and very stupid and hate everybody and everything." - Charles Darwin
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wirthling
Does anxiety count as exercise?
Sparkle wrote:
I don't mean this in a handsome Tom Cruise way, but how much exercise do you get?

Does anxiety count as exercise?
"I am very poorly today and very stupid and hate everybody and everything." - Charles Darwin
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Putu
Does it? Does it?
That's...not what I meant at all.
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Sparkle
wirthling wrote:
Does anxiety count as exercise?
wirthling wrote:

Does anxiety count as exercise?


lol no. 
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kingelessar8
wirthling wrote:
Does anxiety count as exercise?
wirthling wrote:

Does anxiety count as exercise?


I don't think it does, but i bet fretting burns tons of calories. Look at what amazing shape Susan Collins is in.
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kingelessar8
wirthling wrote:


Part of me is saying, Well it's probably for the best that I making less music, because I suck at it. If I could separate out that part and then stake it through its heart I'd probably be most of the way to OK. -ish.


For whatever its worth, I like your music.
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kingelessar8
Sparkle wrote:
I don't mean this in a handsome Tom Cruise way, but how much exercise do you get? My experience has been that while mental illness can completely deplete your will to engage in physical activity, medication can sometimes make it even worse. I think that exercise is extremely important in managing mental health.


More seriously, absolutely none. I am in miserable physical shape. No fatter than normal, just flabby all the way down. Until a few years ago I used to work out and engage in a decent amount of activity regularly, but its hard to hit the gym when you don't even want to leave your house. 
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Sparkle


More seriously, absolutely none. I am in miserable physical shape. No fatter than normal, just flabby all the way down. Until a few years ago I used to work out and engage in a decent amount of activity regularly, but its hard to hit the gym when you don't even want to leave your house. 


I understand this. It can be difficult to even open your eyes in the morning. I hope I'm not sounding preachy, but maybe don't think you have to hit the gym, maybe just a walk around the block or even 2 minutes of walking on the spot inside. I have gone through many of the same things you guys are posting about, and exercise helped me more than the countless number of medications I was on. I'm not saying get off your meds, but rather to incorporate deliberate physical activity of any kind into your day.
"We think it is more important to be right than it is to appeal to the humanity of people we disagree with." ~Hannah Gadsby
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EJ

No fatter than normal, just flabby all the way down.
Girdles the whole way down, yes.

Seriously, though. If you need to commiserate, feel free to let it all out. My life is an interminable shitshow with no light at the end of the tunnel ("It doesn't get better!), but I defuse it, and diffuse it, by putting my head down and working and spreading my brain out thin. Some people cannot do that, and that may actually be a positive character trait. (Like when my wife gets depressed, she just shuts the fuck down, which I completely understand.)

I don't know exactly what I'm getting at here, but lots of people are candidates for being committed (i.e., me going on an "FML!" tirade after dropping a yoghurt yesterday), and just because you have the guts to say to yourself that maybe, just maybe, you should be doesn't mean you're on your own.

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kingelessar8
Sparkle wrote:


I understand this. It can be difficult to even open your eyes in the morning. I hope I'm not sounding preachy, but maybe don't think you have to hit the gym, maybe just a walk around the block or even 2 minutes of walking on the spot inside. I have gone through many of the same things you guys are posting about, and exercise helped me more than the countless number of medications I was on. I'm not saying get off your meds, but rather to incorporate deliberate physical activity of any kind into your day.


I think you are right, I need to start small. Walking around the block a time or two would be a help. I just hope I don't come across any people while I'm walking.
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kingelessar8
EJ wrote:
Girdles the whole way down, yes.

Seriously, though. If you need to commiserate, feel free to let it all out. My life is an interminable shitshow with no light at the end of the tunnel ("It doesn't get better!), but I defuse it, and diffuse it, by putting my head down and working and spreading my brain out thin. Some people cannot do that, and that may actually be a positive character trait. (Like when my wife gets depressed, she just shuts the fuck down, which I completely understand.)

I don't know exactly what I'm getting at here, but lots of people are candidates for being committed (i.e., me going on an "FML!" tirade after dropping a yoghurt yesterday), and just because you have the guts to say to yourself that maybe, just maybe, you should be doesn't mean you're on your own.

 



Well thanks I appreciate it. I fortunately have a decent amount of support at home, which helps. Coming here helps too.
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whic
I don't have direct experience with either disorder but I am a huge advocate of therapy and do know that meds can do wonders for both schizophrenia and bipolar. 
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Paquito


Well thanks I appreciate it. I fortunately have a decent amount of support at home, which helps. Coming here helps too.


KE8! KE8! KE8! KE8!
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kingelessar8
Initially, the Lexipro caused me to not be able to have an orgasm for almost three weeks. I wonder what fun side effect I will experience from the Abilify. I am just about to find out, whee.
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kingelessar8
Well it's, um, certainly different. I wasnt expecting an immediate reaction.
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Paquito
Initially, the Lexipro caused me to not be able to have an orgasm for almost three weeks. I wonder what fun side effect I will experience from the Abilify. I am just about to find out, whee.


Well it's, um, certainly different. I wasnt expecting an immediate reaction.


I did notice you started posting in Mos Eisley...
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Epitoooozy
My former family doctor says I was bipolar all the way back in 2008.  But I don't think I was.  I probably had situational depression all the way up until early 2008.  If I am indeed bipolar, it was all the meds I have taken over the years made me that way.
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Epitoooozy
bazou wrote:


I was prescribed Cymbalta for my fibromyalgia. I took it for a month and hated how it made me feel - or rather, not feel anything - so I got off it.


That's what a lot of these drugs seem to do. Make you feel nothing.  And each one taking a different part of your soul.  I have been on Clonopin for almost 5 years now and I experienced a huge spike in Anhedonia from the onset.  Strangely though, Xanax and Temazepam made me highly emotional -  sobbing uncontrollably at the slightest trigger.  But when I got on Seroquel (to wean off the huge amount of benzos I was taking) it turned me into a zombie.  

In the days of Xanax, I felt this overwhelming need to connect to people.  I even handed out coupons at the super market at one point just to feel some kind of connection.   I can't even imagine doing that now.
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Esoteric Allusion
I have a lot of professional experience with psychotropic medication, but am at a loss on how to respond here. Abilify can sometimes be helpful while being less prone to the weight gain and diabetes side effects classically associated with 2nd gen antipsychotics? Though it's still enough of a risk that given your history of weight issues, it should be closely monitored? Idk. They probably already told you that. 
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bazou
Epitoooozy wrote:


That's what a lot of these drugs seem to do. Make you feel nothing.  And each one taking a different part of your soul.  I have been on Clonopin for almost 5 years now and I experienced a huge spike in Anhedonia from the onset.  Strangely though, Xanax and Temazepam made me highly emotional -  sobbing uncontrollably at the slightest trigger.  But when I got on Seroquel (to wean off the huge amount of benzos I was taking) it turned me into a zombie.  .


Yeah, my best friend was on Seroquel for years, she fucking hated it.
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kingelessar8
I have a lot of professional experience with psychotropic medication, but am at a loss on how to respond here. Abilify can sometimes be helpful while being less prone to the weight gain and diabetes side effects classically associated with 2nd gen antipsychotics? Though it's still enough of a risk that given your history of weight issues, it should be closely monitored? Idk. They probably already told you that. 


I'm on 5mg a day. Do you think the small dosage will help minimize the risks?
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kingelessar8
Still early days here and this may not mean much yet, but I am already feeling better than I have for weeks. I dont feel like sleeping all day long and the grey shroud covering everything has lifted. I even left the house today to go visit a friend.
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booze
Still early days here and this may not mean much yet, but I am already feeling better than I have for weeks. I dont feel like sleeping all day long and the grey shroud covering everything has lifted. I even left the house today to go visit a friend.


So, you felt good enough to visit a friend and now you have coronavirus. Bad trade-off.
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kingelessar8
What the hell? This is the fifth post of mine to disappear in the last two days.
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Paquito
What the hell? This is the fifth post of mine to disappear in the last two days.


I see this post!
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Esoteric Allusion


I'm on 5mg a day. Do you think the small dosage will help minimize the risks?
Lower dosage does mean lower risk, but the risk is still there. You likely were recommended Abilify in part because the diabetes risk isn't as significant as it would be with some of the other options. Because it's still there, it will need to be closely monitored given that you are already in a high risk cohort. I'd expect 6 month checks at a min.
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kingelessar8
I'm seeing my doctor in three weeks, so I guess he does plan on monitoring my situation.
And as far as I am able to determine so far the medicine is working. I'm having periods of lethargy but they are nothing compared to 12 days ago. My mood swings have leveled out too.
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Esoteric Allusion
I'm seeing my doctor in three weeks, so I guess he does plan on monitoring my situation.
And as far as I am able to determine so far the medicine is working. I'm having periods of lethargy but they are nothing compared to 12 days ago. My mood swings have leveled out too.
For what it is worth, for those who find the medication effective, sometimes staring down some weight gain in the near term and diabetes in the medium to long term is a worthwhile tradeoff. Depending on how aggressive your doc is, you're probably just looking at 6 month fasting lipid panels and glucose checks. Abilify is one of the better drugs in this regard, but the atypicals all tend to cause metabolic disturbances.
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kingelessar8
For what it is worth, for those who find the medication effective, sometimes staring down some weight gain in the near term and diabetes in the medium to long term is a worthwhile tradeoff. Depending on how aggressive your doc is, you're probably just looking at 6 month fasting lipid panels and glucose checks. Abilify is one of the better drugs in this regard, but the atypicals all tend to cause metabolic disturbances.


Oh i see what you are saying. I'm already diabetic, although I have it under control. If Abilify shows any signs of making it worse, the Abilify is going to go.
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