Detrimental
So thanks to Paquito we now have an anime thread. If this offends you don't lambaste me, direct it towards Paquito.

I've just started Fate-stay Night and so far so good. It doesn't bore the ever loving shit out of me like every other anime I try to start nowadays so i'm pleased about that.

Oh and sorry Wreckloose that Houseki no Kuni show was really boring to me. I got through half of it before i gave up. I might finish it, but half the show is about cute girls just interacting with each other. And that aspect of modern anime is sooo boring to me. Oh well.
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Paquito
Thank you Det. I could have started my own anime thread, but it would feel less like RT if it wasn't Det's anime thread.

We're approaching the end of Dragon Ball Super's universe survival arc, and it's pretty terrific. I'm liking how they're keeping Vegeta relevant, and it's nice to see him have a motivation aside from simply being the strongest.
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Paquito wrote:
Thank you Det. I could have started my own anime thread, but it would feel less like RT if it wasn't Det's anime thread.

We're approaching the end of Dragon Ball Super's universe survival arc, and it's pretty terrific. I'm liking how they're keeping Vegeta relevant, and it's nice to see him have a motivation aside from simply being the strongest.


I wouldn't say terrific. I'm getting tired of people getting stronger just because they feel like it. I have high hopes that the arc is going to end well though, so we'll see.
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Detrimental wrote:

I wouldn't say terrific. I'm getting tired of people getting stronger just because they feel like it. I have high hopes that the arc is going to end well though, so we'll see.


I've just come to expect that from Dragon Ball. Power levels have been bullshit for a very long time, as have achieving new tiers of power. Didn't Goten become Super Saiyan by sparring with his mom?
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Paquito wrote:


I've just come to expect that from Dragon Ball. Power levels have been bullshit for a very long time, as have achieving new tiers of power. Didn't Goten become Super Saiyan by sparring with his mom?


Yeah I guess, but instances of that were still pretty rare in DBZ.
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Wreck
Did you watch Fate/Zero? It takes place before Fate/Stay night. I watched Fate/Stay night first, but it's probably better in the other order.
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Detrimental
Wreck wrote:
Did you watch Fate/Zero? It takes place before Fate/Stay night. I watched Fate/Stay night first, but it's probably better in the other order.


WTF? I did not. I was confused about the order of things too and was worried i'd mess up what to watch first, and it looks like I did.
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Detrimental
Anybody watching Darling in the Franxx? It's by trigger and it looks interesting. But I wanted to ask you guys if it was any good before I bothered with it.
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Detrimental wrote:


Yeah I guess, but instances of that were still pretty rare in DBZ.


With Vegeta's latest power-up, there is some background to justify it. During their training with Whis, they were taught how to concentrate their energy. That initially allowed them to achieve SSB, so it's not a too big of a stretch of the universe's logic to say Vegeta was able to further refine that to achieve SSB2, or whatever they decide to call it.
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Paquito
Black Clover continues to be satisfying. I don't think it'll be anything more than a solid shonen, but that's not a bad thing. It's leagues beyond something as utterly generic as, say, Record of Grancrest War.
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Detrimental wrote:
Anybody watching Darling in the Franxx? It's by trigger and it looks interesting. But I wanted to ask you guys if it was any good before I bothered with it.


Just watched the first episode. Feels like a standard mecha anime with a Fooly Cooly vibe. Not sure I'd recommend it, but I'll watch a couple more episodes.
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Paquito wrote:

Just watched the first episode. Feels like a standard mecha anime with a Fooly Cooly vibe. Not sure I'd recommend it, but I'll watch a couple more episodes.


I watched the second episode, and lol. The innuendo in FLCL was fun, this is just egregious. It's still kinda funny, but it'll probably get old pretty fast.
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I watched the second episode, and lol. The innuendo in FLCL was fun, this is just egregious. It's still kinda funny, but it'll probably get old pretty fast.


Just watched episode 3. It seems like there's might be a legitimately good sci-fi story here. The tone of that doesn't exactly jive with the ridiculous innuendo it's paired with, but I still find it entertaining.
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Paquito wrote:


Just watched episode 3. It seems like there's might be a legitimately good sci-fi story here. The tone of that doesn't exactly jive with the ridiculous innuendo it's paired with, but I still find it entertaining.


I watched the first 2 episodes and found everything about it ridiculous and kind of cliche ridden. But I like the animation and will give it a few more episodes and see if it gets more interesting before I drop it.
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I started rewatching Hunter x Hunter; it's still so damn good. I find myself binge watching a few episodes at a time, even though I know what's going to happen.

I wanna get a non-anime fan to watch it, just to see how it plays with them. Probably someone who enjoys action genres of movies and TV shows.
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Det, have you finished Dragon Ball Super? The finale was very satisfying, IMO. It looks like they're committed to continuing the franchise, first with a movie, and then a new series. At some point, they'll have to find a way to resolve plot points without resorting to creating new tiers of power levels. Or they won't, because, lol, dragon ball.
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I don't know if you started watching Black Clover, but I wouldn't recommend it. It's well animated, and the characters are interesting, but holy shit do they drag out the story. Between recaps and pointless dialog, there's maybe 7-10 minutes of new content in every 25 min episode. It's ridiculous.
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I started Black Clover but dropped it, it was too derivative of better shonen series for me. And yeah I liked the DBS finale a lot, it was kind of weird who won but w/e. I'm watching Stens Gate right now and have about 6 episodes left. It's very good, very weird too but still very good.
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Steins Gate is awesome. Glad to have that and Code Geass coming back with new seasons.
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Detrimental wrote:
yeah I liked the DBS finale a lot, it was kind of weird who won but w/e.


I actually enjoyed the final set of fighters, and who won out. That's Dragon Ball starting to subvert expectations, which means its story telling is maturing, ever so slightly. It makes me slightly optimistic that the future of the franchise will continue to improve in this aspect.

I'm keeping my expectations as low as possible though, because that's the best way to enjoy the franchise.
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Question, where can I watch Steins Gate? Do I have to torrent it?

Also, I just watched the first episode of MEGALOBOX. It's super promising.
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Megalo box was hype as fuck. Can't you watch Steins Gate on Crunchyroll? I could've sword they added it, other than that I guess you have to torrent it.
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Wreck
Looks like Steins;Gate is indeed on crunchyroll. There is a movie that takes place after the series that you would probably have to torrent.
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Wreck wrote:
Looks like Steins;Gate is indeed on crunchyroll.


I found it. Their search sucks; when I entered Steins Gate, the only result was some piece of merchandise. I searched again for just "Steins" and found it.

I binged watched a bunch of episodes this weekend, it took me a while to get into it, but I'm hooked now. I forget what episode I'm on, but the identity of John Titor was just revealed.
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Is anyone still watching Darling in the Franxx? I want to know if I should dive back into it.
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Detrimental wrote:
Is anyone still watching Darling in the Franxx? I want to know if I should dive back into it.


The sexual innuendo gets dialed down a lot as the focus starts to shift to the history of the world, the teams origin, and Zero Two's origin. It's good, maybe better than average, definitely not great. It's definitely more creative than Black Clover.
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This is a pretty fun house of cards that One Piece has constructed with the Whole Cake Island arc, and somebody FINALLY flicked it. 

Hype.
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Detrimental wrote:
Is anyone still watching Darling in the Franxx? I want to know if I should dive back into it.


Just finished the season (series?). The story and themes ended up way more interesting than what the first half of the series promised. The fan-service tone was completely off base, and that tone completely changes, leaving the series as a whole feeling uneven. It really ended up wrecking what could have been a top ranking series.

I don't think I'd generally recommend it, but you enjoy the first several episodes, then it's worth finishing. Unless you liked it for the fan service, in which case you'll eventually get bored.
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I love the first season of Golden Kamuy. It's freakin' weird. It sets itself up as an action anime, setting it's main character on a quest to find a hidden store of gold. Then he gets a young indigenous companion, and it veers into this odd hunting food porn direction, with a lot of screen time devoted them hunting, preparing, and eating the stuff they've killed. Then this plot involving a couple different factions chasing the gold for the sake of conquering Japan gets interwoven in.

So yea, really weird, but I'm really enjoying it.
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When Black Clover came out, the production company proclaimed it to be "the new king of shonens". It turned out to be derivative and lazy. Around the same time, My Hero Academia came out, which like Black Clover, is about a powerless kid that wants to become the world's greatest hero. A few story arcs in, and it looks like there's a legitimate argument to be made that it's one of the best, if not the best.
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Paquito wrote:
When Black Clover came out, the production company proclaimed it to be "the new king of shonens". It turned out to be derivative and lazy. Around the same time, My Hero Academia came out, which like Black Clover, is about a powerless kid that wants to become the world's greatest hero. A few story arcs in, and it looks like there's a legitimate argument to be made that it's one of the best, if not the best.


This is all true except My Hero isn't better than One Piece, Hunter X Hunter, Yu Yu Hakusho or Dragonball. I'm probably forgetting a few too. It's still damn good though.

Did you finish Megalo Box? Man I really enjoyed that show and would like to know what you thought of it.
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Detrimental wrote:


Did you finish Megalo Box? Man I really enjoyed that show and would like to know what you thought of it.


Megalo Box is absolutely perfect. Was it made by the same people that made Cowboy Beebop & Samurai Champloo, or is it just sort of a homage to those shows?

In anycase, it's one of those shows I'd instantly recommend to someone that's never watched anime.
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Paquito wrote:


Megalo Box is absolutely perfect. Was it made by the same people that made Cowboy Beebop & Samurai Champloo, or is it just sort of a homage to those shows?

In anycase, it's one of those shows I'd instantly recommend to someone that's never watched anime.


It was done by a new director and I think new studio. It's actually a tribute to Ashita no Joe, a manga I loved reading but never finished because there are no new scanlations of them on the internet. There is a television show I tried watching, but the pacing in it was so bad I couldn't finish it.
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Detrimental wrote:


This is all true except My Hero isn't better than One Piece, Hunter X Hunter, Yu Yu Hakusho or Dragonball. I'm probably forgetting a few too. It's still damn good though


Just focusing on Hunter X Hunter, I don't know man. I love HxH, and would definitely say I enjoy it more than My Hero, but I'd have to think about why some more.

My Hero Academia's story telling and characterization has been perfect, and I don't think it's had a bad arc. HxH's chimera ant arc was about 20 episodes too long.

In any case, it definitely deserves to be considered top tier.
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Paquito wrote:


Just focusing on Hunter X Hunter, I don't know man. I love HxH, and would definitely say I enjoy it more than My Hero, but I'd have to think about why some more.

My Hero Academia's story telling and characterization has been perfect, and I don't think it's had a bad arc. HxH's chimera ant arc was about 20 episodes too long.

In any case, it definitely deserves to be considered top tier.


Come one man there is nothing in My Hero that comes close to the Chimera Ant arc. The Chimera Ant arc is a masterpiece in shonen storytelling and is my favorite shonen arc of all time. Have you ever watched One Piece?
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Also I would say Naruto is just as good as My Hero Academia if Naruto Shippuden never happened.
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Detrimental wrote:


Come one man there is nothing in My Hero that comes close to the Chimera Ant arc. The Chimera Ant arc is a masterpiece in shonen storytelling and is my favorite shonen arc of all time. Have you ever watched One Piece?


Nope, haven't seen One Piece.

The Chimera Ant arc had, hands down, the most amazingly perfect ending I've ever seen. But there was also pointless garbage like this.


Anyway, you just helped me put words to one reason why I like HxH better. The highs are just so much fucking higher. Netero And Zeno's Dragon Dive, fuuuuck

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Paquito wrote:



Nope, haven't seen One Piece.

The Chimera Ant arc had, hands down, the most amazingly perfect ending I've ever seen. But there was also pointless garbage like this.


Anyway, you just helped me put words to one reason why I like HxH better. The highs are just so much fucking higher. Netero And Zeno's Dragon Dive, fuuuuck



I remember that part being awesome, oh well different strokes I guess. You should watch One Piece it's up there with Hunter X Hunter while being an almost completely different show with a completely different tone.
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Det, are you watching Stein's Gate 0?
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Paquito wrote:
Det, are you watching Stein's Gate 0?


Nah. I don't know why but I don't feel like watching a sequel based on the alternative ending of the original. I might watch it one day, but right now i'm not up to it.
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Detrimental wrote:


Nah. I don't know why but I don't feel like watching a sequel based on the alternative ending of the original. I might watch it one day, but right now i'm not up to it.


Is that what it is? It's not clear yet, but I'm currently under the impression that there's continuity, and it's a prequel.
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Paquito wrote:


Is that what it is? It's not clear yet, but I'm currently under the impression that there's continuity, and it's a prequel.


Steins Gate is based on a Visual Novel type video game and the Steins Gate 0 is based on an alternative ending of said video game.
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Detrimental wrote:

Steins Gate is based on a Visual Novel type video game and the Steins Gate 0 is based on an alternative ending of said video game.


SPOILERS if anyone actually reads this thread aside from me and Det

Bleh. That takes some of the fun out it for me. So at the end of Steins Gate, when he's about to give up trying to save Kurisu, Suzuha shows him a message from his future self, letting him know how he could save her.

I thought Steins Gate 0 was the timeline of his future self. And I think, thus far, everything in this season would make it possible for that to be the case. I'm actually holding out hope that this is the case, because this season has been great, and it would be a shame if there was no continuity between it and the first season.
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Paquito wrote:


SPOILERS if anyone actually reads this thread aside from me and Det

Bleh. That takes some of the fun out it for me. So at the end of Steins Gate, when he's about to give up trying to save Kurisu, Suzuha shows him a message from his future self, letting him know how he could save her.

I thought Steins Gate 0 was the timeline of his future self. And I think, thus far, everything in this season would make it possible for that to be the case. I'm actually holding out hope that this is the case, because this season has been great, and it would be a shame if there was no continuity between it and the first season.


I'm not exactly sure what happens in Steins Gate 0 but apparently he never saved Kurisu and now he's walking around all depressed and shit. And there is some robot with Kurisu's soul or something. I didn't research it too much.
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Detrimental wrote:


I'm not exactly sure what happens in Steins Gate 0 but apparently he never saved Kurisu and now he's walking around all depressed and shit. And there is some robot with Kurisu's soul or something. I didn't research it too much.


Yea. The way I see it, Steins Gate 0 is about what would have happened if he never got that message from his future self telling him how to saive Kurisu.

The more I think about it, the more I feel there's continuity, and that this is a prequel. This season has explained at least one previously unexplained event from season 1. And I know that season one combined a number of paths from the game into one story line. Perhaps this is more of that.

This season is almost over, so I'll let you know if that's the case.
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I really look forward to Attack on Titan every week.
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Wreck wrote:
I really look forward to Attack on Titan every week.


Great show. I stopped watching the second season for some reason and never got back into it. I really should though it's maturity and depth in storytelling is almost up there with Hunter X Hunter.
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I think it has good story momentum season 2 and 3. I haven't read the manga but I've seen people tease starting with the next episode being the best arc.
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Detrimental wrote:


Great show. I stopped watching the second season for some reason and never got back into it. I really should though it's maturity and depth in storytelling is almost up there with Hunter X Hunter.


I know people hate recap episodes, but I wish every anime did a recap episode at the start of a new season. Especially if there's a large gap between seasons. I think I remember enough of Titans to dive right into season 3, but I wonder if I should rewatch season 2 first.
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Paquito wrote:


I know people hate recap episodes, but I wish every anime did a recap episode at the start of a new season. Especially if there's a large gap between seasons. I think I remember enough of Titans to dive right into season 3, but I wonder if I should rewatch season 2 first.


I had read past season 1 and some of season 2 in the manga but stopped reading it because they kept raising questions that I felt were going to take forever to answer. When I went back to the franchise I decided to continue with the anime and had to start from midpoint season 1 because I had forgotten so much. Now i'm hoping when I go back to finish season 2 I don't have to do that again.
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